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Thursday, July 6th, 2006

Subject:vector <3's deep-seeded materialism
Posted by:mte.
Time:11:35 am.
Mood: creative.
Has anyone noticed just how intensely anyone associated with Vector LOVES their knives?

Even cocaine drug lords know not to indulge in their own product that much. I know that line sounds like a joke. But seriously-- what trickery is it when you make someone fall in love with a material item?

In the words of KRS-One:

"Ya know, a lot of people believe that that word Love is real soft, but when you use it in your vocabulary like you're addicted to it, it sneaks right up and takes you right out. out. out. out. out. So, for future reference remember it's alright to like or want a material item, but when you fall in love with it and you start scheming and carrying on for it, just remember, it's gonna get'cha."
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Saturday, June 3rd, 2006

Subject:Hello to all Vector victims ~
Posted by:whitechristmas.
Time:1:40 am.
Is there still a message board for all the Vector victims to rant how much Vector has wasted their time and money and still continue to do so right now?

Any active discussions about this problem online?

I am ashamed to say that I was a victim when I attended to their job interview yesterday.  Long story short, I went out part skeptical and part content that I was hired.

I talked to my mom the following night and she told me not go to to the training the next day.  I was lucky enough to do serious research online to find out that this company has been scamming every students in America ...

I just want to say that there should be more actions to stop this company and I want to know

how did they get my address the first place?

Vector sent me a letter last year when I just graduated from my high school.  How did they get my address?

I think there should be more to deal with this problem, such as telling students in high school what this company really is and distrubute flyers and all sorts of stuff.

I didn't go to the training today which was 8am to 5pm.  Not getting paid during the training was one thing but having to pay an expensive sample kit made me question the job.  Around 9am, the manager Chris Sierra called my cell phone to ask why I wasn't at the training.  He left a voice mail and wanted me to call him back.

I think Vector's goal is to hire all the students in America and possible the whole world.
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Monday, May 29th, 2006

Subject:Will I get fired for this?
Posted by:anodracs.
Time:1:15 am.
Mood: disappointed.
Hey all, I'm brand-new to the Vector/Cutco. team, and I'm quickly discovering the downside to this job.
First off, I have to say that I do love the knives, but I think my job is in jeopardy. When I had the first interview, I stated that I do not have access to a car, but dodged the bullet by saying I know the local bus routes. Of course I was excited when I was hired, but training was a total bitch. I was astounded at the amount the manager has bagered us to sell. I come from a small family, and only have two or three contacts where I'm living. Most of my fellow trainees seemed to know millions of people, whereas the people I know aren't MACs, in fact, they're as far from MACs as you can get. My manager's a bit of a bitch, and I'm wondering if I'll get canned for not having contacts to bug. At least I have my kit (I'm keeping it, it's worth the $148), but by the last day of training I was having fantasies about doing nasty things to my manager with the knives. And I'm pissed that you don't get paid for training, about every other job out there at least has paid training. I'm looking for a second job, since I doubt this job will yeild much money.
P.S., I don't drive because I have Asperger's Syndrome, and get incredibly nervous behind the wheel. I also have poor depth perception. Getting hired was a miracle in itself, since I used to be extremely shy and terrified of direct eye contact.
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Tuesday, July 5th, 2005

Subject:New to Anti-Vector.
Posted by:bpmomega.
Time:2:00 am.
Greetings. The name's BPMΩ, and I am currently a Vector rep. And have been for about a week or so, and have been HATING IT.
Now that I've been enlightened to the truth behind Vector/Cutco, I am more than willing to quit this job (and had been contemplating it for some time, as it was driving me to a deeper level of insanity).

I just am glad I'm not the only one who hates this crap.

[bpmΩ]
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Friday, May 13th, 2005

Posted by:ex_shattered767.
Time:1:42 pm.
It's almost summer, and I've been reminded of how Vector kicks up their recruiting around this time of year to catch all of the college students and high school graduates.
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Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004

Subject:This was posted somewhere else a few months ago
Posted by:antiscam.
Time:3:38 pm.
"Hello to all of you upset former employees. Let me introduce myself. My name is Trevor Bailey and I am a former Cutco Team Manager in Fort Worth, TX. Unlike most managers, I came to Cutco after I recieved my Bachelor's Degree at Texas Christian University in Marketing. I had all the proper and necessary training skills needed for the new Cutco office in down town Fort Worth. I will admit that I did not recieve the job through applying because as you all know nearly every manager was a sales rep at some point. My uncle happened to be friends with the District Manager John C. Rodgers. I will not drag this out any longer, I spoke with John and he immediatley offered me the position as manager for the new office.

I had to go through 2 weeks of NOT PAID training. But John would always joke that it did not matter because the "guppies" (thats what he called the new recruits) would bring me all the money I needed. He said it was very important that I recruit as many "guppies" has possible in a fast amount of time. This quickly seemed odd to me. Every time I had a question about the selling tactics he would say " how bad do you want this job?" I said alright I will just go with it. And yes my office was a run down rental with that same music blaring. They actually put in trophies from old boxes. The whole place just had a stale, corrupt smell to it. During training I was always taught to "sell the job". Ofcourse the money came rolling in about as fast as I had to replace these poor kids. I will tell you this: as manager I earned 45-65 percent from all the recruiting. Which I know now is totally outrageous.

For those of you who are interested in knowing about the so called "physcological tricks" Cutco provides...yes it is true. One whole day of my training was dedicated to providing some quick and easy ways to find recruits. Such as: vague ads, music, rejection applications, reps posing as new applicants, eye contact, luring college kids due to money and flexible schedule. The single most biggest physcological lesson was this pure and simple : MAKE THE KIDS FEEL SPECIAL. Make them think they are the only qualified people for the job. As for the other scams they include : the "JumpStart" (use the kids in 2 weeks then once they quit you atleast have what they sold), Henckles 5 star AD is addes up piece by piece and I found it online for around 449, unpaid training, long hours, no pay for gas, clothing, and phone calls, it truley is door to door selling, vague phone conversations, daily office check ins, you have to pay for conferences, high pressure selling, etc. After seeing these young people's faces light up time after time I said they are hired...I just felt so guilty and put in my resignation only 4 months later.

This was all only about 2 months ago. I just now stumbled upon this site out of curiosity and wish I had much earlier. Yes nearly every rumor about Cutco is true. That may not make it illegal but it does make it unethical and wrong. Please do not fall for this pyramid scheme it is not worth it. Cutco is practically a cult and it takes over your life. I feel so much better now that I am with a real company ( and by the way, if you have ever worked for a large honest company then you know they have no respect for Cutco whatsoever its quite funny, Cutco is frowned upon by the real big industries as nothing significant ) I now work for Boeing as a sales director and I have to say I love it. DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE CUTCO ADS THEY ARE A SCAM. PLEASE DO NOT WORK FOR CUTCO YOU ARE TRULEY A BETTER PERSON THAN THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME I HOPE I HELPED. my personal email is dodgerules16@hotmail.com I encourage your reply to this message, please if you have any questions regarding management just ask!"
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Wednesday, October 13th, 2004

Subject:As promised
Posted by:escalatorguru.
Time:5:00 pm.
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Company's hiring practices deceive students
Campus Report, October 2003
a. beaton


College students are having more and more trouble finding jobs these days. Coming across a job advertising $16.00 per appointment with no telemarketing or door-to-door sales and perks like choosing your own schedule, and winning scholarships, vacations, and other prizes, seems almost like a dream. As with any job, one should be aware when they sign on with any company. If a job seems too good to be true, then chances are it probably is.
On the Bedford campus, yellow and green signs have been posted advertising the aforementioned "dream job". The company offering the positions, Vector Marketing, is a relatively well-known (almost notorious) company. That is where any clarity ends. An Internet search on Vector Marketing returns over 20 pages of results, and lots of conflicting information. Since it is nearly impossible to read every page, here is some basic information about the company and the job that will help you to make an educated decision before you sign your contract.
First things first, Vector Marketing is a subsidiary of Alcas. Alcas is the "parent company" of Cutco and Ka-Bar (both are knife manufacturers), and you may be told Alcas is a Fortune 500 company. This is only partially true. Alcas was formed in 1948 from a Fortune 500 company, Alcoa, in conjunction with W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company. In 1972 Alcoa bought Case, and in 1982 Alcas went private. For over 20 years Alcas has had nothing to do with Alcoa, and therefore nothing to do with Fortune 500. Vector Marketing is just a fancy name for their sales department.
During the 90-minute interview, you will be told everything you didn't learn over the phone. There is a product demonstration and a couple of reps will stop in and talk about how positive their Vector experience has been. By this point, most people are either skeptical or blown away. Essentially everyone in the interview gets the job, and training takes place not long after the interview. You are 'hired' as in independent contractor, meaning you do not have to be paid for anything other than work you perform, the company does not have to withhold taxes, and you are not eligible for unemployment or disability benefits (if you slice your hand off at a demo, it's all on you.) Independent contractors pay for their own business expenses, and are generally not represented by a union. However, since you are required to show up at meetings and perform a set number of demos each week, you are being treated as an employee-which means you are entitled to certain benefits, including paid training and mileage reimbursement.
Most people are not told upfront, but training is unpaid. Managers will say this is because you gain important business skills. You may spend 15 or more hours training, and you are not told until the second day how much money your sample kit will cost. This practice has been known to weed out representatives who come from lower income families-if they can't afford the $150 for the knives, then surely their family and friends won't be able to pay $805 for a set.
Reps are initially promised a base pay of $16 per appointment. This is unclear because many don't understand the difference between "hour" and "appointment". A demo could take 10 minutes, and the rep would still earn that $16. A demo could take three hours and result in (more)
no sales, and the rep will earn only $16 for three hours of work. Demonstrations are the only time reps are paid for-nobody is reimbursed for gas, mileage, and time spent on the phone trying to set appointments (telemarketing) or for demonstrations where the customer is not home. Now the tricky part: This $16 is based on two things- commission and make-up pay. If your commission for the week does not meet or exceed the $16 an hour you were promised, the rest of that money will come from the manager's pocket. (Don't worry about the manager-he or she makes a pretty penny off of every rep's sales. Between 35 and 55 percent of knife sales is spent on commissioning the reps and their managers.) Unscrupulous managers will deny reps of their base pay, using excuses such as "it wasn't a qualified demo" or "you aren't working hard enough".
Some of the materials reps are instructed to use, and the things they are taught to say and do, are deceptive or just outright wrong. At any given "demo" (sales call), reps lie about the quality of the knives, citing articles that don't exist, claiming that Cutco is the official cutlery of the Pillsbury bakeoff, and lying about the quality and value of the competitor's product. Since many reps don't take it upon themselves to look this information up on their own, they take those deceptions into the customer's home with them-without even knowing that what they are doing is illegal. This is fraud, a crime to which Vector Marketing has admitted to in Australia. As it turns out, the "best steel money can buy" really isn't, and the "heat-resistant" thermoresin material the handles are constructed from are actually flammable.
Vector is not all bad, however. Some people can do very well. Achieving their level of success requires a combination of numerous factors-starting with who you know. Since your business relies on personal referrals, starting with your parents, it pays to know people with money. It takes hard work, reliable transportation, and perseverance. People do, in fact, really win scholarships and trips. If anything, the Vector experience can be a lot of fun, especially if you have the right manager. The product isn't by any means excellent or professional quality, but is still pretty good.
The bottom line is that no business can be everything it claims to be. Always conduct a careful examination of any company you apply to. If a job seems too good to be true, turn around and walk the other way. The right job will come along.

-30-
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Subject:Just Joined
Posted by:chron_i.
Time:11:08 am.
I gotta say I'm surprised that the last entry was in Augst (not). Looks like most of you are running off of the steam from Vector's shady past. I find it funny once the company is considered bad it's product is immediatly considered horrific.


I'm not gonna say much, though I'll be expecting quite a bit of flamming from you guys
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Monday, October 4th, 2004

Subject:Glad I found this Community....
Posted by:fungusinmymilk.
Time:9:54 pm.
My name is Melissa, I live in Oregon, go to school at PCC Sylvania.... I was walking to class, and this guy stops me and asks "You need a job?" "YES! DESPERATELY!!" he tells me it's a job in marketing "Oh really? I do a little bit of marketing." I fill out a form, hand it to him, he doesn't even look at it and says "You application looks great, are you free to come in for an interview at 5:30?" I say yes, he gives me the directions.... I get there, yall know how the process works. I was amazed, I thought it was awesome. Then he calls me into his office, and I totally land the job. he says he loves my possitive attitude and he likes that I already have some experience in marketing. I was really excited then I started to wonder... How the hell am I going to set up appointments with people I don't even know?? I am in such desperate need of money right now, and I was so excited, but I can't believe all the things I just read on this community alone not to mention some of my friends have already said things about cutco and vector that aren't good. *sigh* Well thanks for the info... now what do I say to Vector to get out of it... I hate being mean... That's why I thought I was good for this job. Cuz I'm happy and nice and smiley and perky... *glares* I'm gonna kick that guy in the balls...
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Saturday, August 21st, 2004

Subject:Oregon Statesman Journal Newspaper Article
Posted by:antiscam.
Time:2:00 pm.
Mood: pleased.
Working for Vector Marketing is costly and frustrating, they say

POLYANA DA COSTA
Statesman Journal
August 21, 2004

The help-wanted advertisements are widespread, posted on college campuses throughout the nation.

The ads, for Vector Marketing and Cutco cutlery products, offer great pay and flexible hours — with no experience necessary for college-age youths.

“It sounds like a great job,” Marcus Emry of Multnomah County said minutes after he accepted an offer from Vector to sell Cutco knives.

For some young people, the sales jobs are an opportunity to make money and to succeed. Some report making good money and developing leadership and communication skills.

But for others, working for Vector has become a frustrating — and costly — experience.

Vector, which has more than 300 offices in the United States and Canada, including Salem, Eugene, Portland and Medford, has outraged students nationwide with its recruiting and employment-related practices:


The Complaint Station, a Web site where consumers can post messages with concerns regarding a product or company, has logged more than 2,000 complaints against Vector Marketing and Cutco.


An online group called Students Against Vector Exploitation, or SAVE, has an online petition against the companies with almost 3,000 signatures since it began last year.


Vector has settled several wage claims that were filed at the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries last year, although it did not acknowledge any law violation.


A Marion County court ordered Vector to stop deceptive recruiting practices as a result of a 1994 investigation.

Most of the complaints refer to recruiting ads, long hours of unpaid training, work pressures and ethical concerns within the firm.

Sarah Andrus, a spokeswoman for Vector, said that it is hard to verify the truth of complaints not tested in court and that many of these are “historical records.”

Andrus said Vector operates under “high ethical standards” and that its representatives, which are considered independent contractors, are told all about the job and the work conditions during the interview process.

But some Oregon students who have worked for the company disagree.

“They make the job sound really good,” said Justin Stover from Eugene, who worked for Vector for about two months last year.

“But the truth is that it is hard pressure, time consuming and you don’t get nearly what they say you’ll make when you first start the job,” he said.

It was a tough learning experience for Stover.

That often is the case for young people looking for their first jobs, said Jane Guajardo, a job specialist at Chemeketa Community College.

“Some of the students that come in here to look for a job don’t have any work experience besides, maybe, some volunteer work,” she said.

“So any of these ads highlighting flexible hours and good pay become more appealing to those who are young, naive and inexperienced because they are not used to do the research and ask questions that adults would,” she said.

The job and its critics

People who accept positions with Vector Marketing attend three half-days of unpaid training, during which they are taught how to make sales presentations.

They are instructed to make a list of friends and relatives who are 25 or older and have full-time jobs so that they can set up their initial appointments and start a reference list.

Time spent to make telephone calls and travel expenses are not reimbursed, according to Vector.

Former representatives also said they were required to buy sets of cutlery products for $145 to use in their sales presentations.

After going through this process, Stover said he learned that selling sets of knives costing from $200 to $2,000 wasn’t as easy as he thought it would be.

He worked about five to six hours per day, and his weekly paycheck was about $100, he said.

Stover said the money wasn’t worth the pressure he felt.

“I had to call them every day at 8 o’clock in the morning to tell them how many appointments I had scheduled for that day,” he said. “If I said, ‘None,’ my manager would say, ‘All right, get two appointments and call me back.’”

Stover also said he attended mandatory meetings and training, although he was classified as an independent contractor.

When he decided to quit, Stover said he was told to wait for his final paycheck to be sent in the mail.

“My paycheck never came,” Stover said. “I even called their headquarters in New York, and they said it would be taken care of, but it wasn’t.”

After filing a wage claim at the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries, Stover said he received the check about two weeks later.

The Oregon Attorney General’s Office has handled several other complaints and wage claims against Vector Marketing filed within the past two years.

Vector’s response

Sarah Andrus of Vector Marketing said that she was not aware of the wage claims and said that “matters brought to the attention of the company are solved immediately.”

Andrus also said that independent contractors are not required to do things.

“They are asked to call to keep the office informed, and their managers probably let them know when it’s the best time to call,” Andrus said. “But we have people who don’t even call at all.”

Vector says that the $145 fee for the display knives is charged as a deposit — although sales taxes are included in states where such taxes apply — in case representatives don’t return the knives when they leave the job.

Some Vector offices also are in the process of eliminating the deposit charges, said Jeremy Bell, district manager for Vector Marketing in Salem.

As of last month, his office stopped charging the fees, and Bell said he expects all other Vector offices to do the same by next month.

An insider’s view

Emily Puterbaugh of Salem, who worked for Vector in Tacoma, Wash., during two summers — as a representative and later as an assistant manager — said she has mixed feelings about her experiences with the company.

She said she enjoyed working for Vector and learned skills that she uses in her sales job today. During her first summer as a representative, she said she earned about $10,000 — more than what she earned as a manager the next summer.

However, Puterbaugh said she decided to quit when she found herself working more than 90 hours per week in her management position and when she started to see “a lot of wrong things” at Vector.

Puterbaugh, 21, said that when she answered inquiry calls about the job, she was given a script to read, which provided little information about the job, emphasizing that it didn’t involve door-to-door sales or telemarketing.

If people insisted on more details, she said she was instructed to reply that she didn’t know any further information and urge callers to schedule an interview.

“It is a high-pressure job like any other sales job, but the thing with Vector is that they make it sound more flexible and easy than it actually is.”

Puterbaugh, a recent Willamette University graduate, said she maintained a 4.0 grade-point average while working for Vector because of the time-management skills she gained at the company.

Still, Puterbaugh said Vector should change its practices.

“It all comes back to the way they present things,” she said. “If they made it sound as good as it is, people wouldn’t get upset, but they make it sound better than it is, so people get upset.”

About the law

Vector Marketing and Cutco have been sued several times — by the Arizona attorney general in 1990 and the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission in 1999. In 1994, a court in Wisconsin ordered Vector to not deceive recruits.

Andrus said that past lawsuits “are historical records, and they don’t represent the Vector of today.”

Nevertheless, Vector still is operating under a 1994 Marion County court order in which the company agreed to be “truthful in representations made to induce persons to sell Vector’s products.”

That includes telling people “exactly what the job is about before they get there,” said Jan Margosian, who has been a spokeswoman for the Oregon Attorney General’s Office for more than 20 years and is familiar with the complaints against Vector.

Vector officials insist that they are obeying the law despite complaints from former employees.

Margosian said the state stands ready to act if such complaints are substantiated.

“If they are breaking that agreement, not only they are violating the law, but they’re violating an agreement with the court,” Margosian said. “So people need to speak up and let us know about it.”

Andrus said Vector is changing its recruiting practices to reveal more information about the job.

“We are very proud of our progress with those changes, and we feel confident that we’ve been moving in the right direction,” she said.

http://news.statesmanjournal.com/article.cfm?i=85450
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Thursday, August 19th, 2004

Subject:my vector experience
Posted by:oswb.
Time:2:08 am.
so, i applied to vetcor online. they called me the next day, that was abnormal for me. all the jobs i've had, wouldn't recommend me for shit. and i went for a interview, all the applicants sat in a waiting room there were about 14 at the time, but they said they only needed 2 people, everyone that came out of that room had a vector pamplet, which means they were hired. and at the 3-day seminar there were over 30 people...although they were only hiring two people...right! they were freakishly nice, and they talked about weekly meetings and phone calls. and then they threw the pitch. and said we'd need to come with $144 for the sample kit whether we borrowed it or not, because they needed a deposit. they almost got the cash too, but i posted on my old lj that i got a job at vector...and my friend commented telling me she used to work there and it was a scam. call those bitches up and told them to suck a dick.
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Sunday, July 25th, 2004

Subject:My Past Experiences
Posted by:aeternam18.
Time:2:00 am.
Well, just liek everyone else I too did get sucked into Vector. To make a long story short there were many promises but many, if not all, of them were empty. The biggest of which was the promise of a bonus for getting a certain number of points in leads. Well, in case you don't know: the idea was that every 10 leads you get from one person equals one point and when you get a certain number of points you got a $100 bonus in cash. Well according to my branch, even directories count as leads. Well, knowing this and the bonus opportunity I decided to use thsi to my advantage. When I gave my mom her demo she gave me 2 different school directories, another church directory and one or two others. Well, this got me enough points for up to $700. let's just say that after trying to get this bonus out of my manager for a month he then tried convincing me that the money was in free Cutco. OK, i can deal with that, knives are fun. But then, after I placed my order it just kinda got lost never to be seen again. *cough* ASSHOLE *cough*

Also, I technically got "fired" from my branch. Reason being (oh, this is a big one, you'd better sit down): I didn't say "Hi" to my manager when I went in to drop off an order form. Aparently, this makes me a "not good' person and someone that is a bad influence on the positive outlook of his employees. I'm sorry, but when I'm running late for my brothers confirmation, one in which I am his sponsor, I think that holds priority!

I hate Vector, every inch of them. They were a waste of my time and had I actually done as many demos as they said I could I would have failed that semester at school. Oh yea, a real school friendly job. OH YEA! you know how they call you right? Well, I was sitting in a theater watching the "Larimy Project" (however you spell that) and unfortunatelly I forgot to turn off my phone. Well, it rang, I quickly heard it and when I hit it in my pocket it picked up. I could just make out my manager talking. Anyways, I hung it up, and before I coudl silence it SHE CALLED AGAIN! WTF!?!?!?!? Ok, people, dont' call me. This is my PRIVATE LINE. If you want to do buisness then give me hours to come in that you are paying me. If I'm an independant contractor why do I have to go to a meeting every week?

Also, the advertising. Well, my branch actually did the illegal move at solicitingon peoples cars. Yea, the whoel running around parking lots away from police to put little cards on peoples cars. Yea.....let's do illegal things in addittion to the higher ups not paying taxes.

Ok, I'm done venting, Has anyone else had that same "firing" experience?
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Monday, July 19th, 2004

Subject:Hello
Posted by:trista80.
Time:1:09 pm.
My name is Trista, I was conned by Vector when I was 19 into working for them. Unfortunatly I wasnt a student living off mom and dad and looking for beer money (like the rest working there). No I was pretty much starving and looking for any type of work that would pay more than minimum wage. I felt sooo lucky to have been picked from all those people to work for them. I scrounged up $150 for my demo kit and even though I didnt have a car I hit the pavement. One problem, my family is poor. My aunts each bought a paring knife for $70 each and gave me as many refrences as they could. I felt like a parasite. I'd go to their houses ffor demos and just looked around their cozy little houses with tv's from the 70- early 80's and just knew I was using their love for me to get $15 a demo. I felt awful. I knew no one could afford this shit. So I quit and kept my knives. They dont keep as sharp as they claim, in fact once during a demo when I was cutting the penny I chipped a tooth off my scissors. Lame.
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Monday, July 12th, 2004

Posted by:ex_shattered767.
Time:12:56 pm.
The other day in SAVE someone posted saying their manager told them they would not be getting base pay for all the demos they did during their first week after training because that first week is still considered training.

I responded telling them it was a load of bullcrap. I got base pay for demos I did within a couple days of finishing my initial training.

Has anyone else had this happen to them or heard of this happening (managers saying you don't get base pay for that first week of demos)?
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Posted by:escalatorguru.
Time:3:04 am.
Good evening.

So, uh, does anyone hate Vector as much as I do?


Someday when I get a chance I'll post my "award-winning" expose...

Yeah, Courtney Lyons owes me sooo much money. And her first born child.
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Wednesday, July 7th, 2004

Subject:I believe in your cause
Posted by:fran0582.
Time:11:57 pm.
Mood: calm.
Hello,
My name is Jessica and I HATE Vector with a passion. I was actually going to make a community against vector but when i saw one was already made i decided to join.

I guess i should tell you all a little bit about my terrible experiance with that cult. I was employed with vector for about 5 or 6 months while i was away at college, THEY WERE TERRIBLE. My manager Todd Cross was the worst person ever. He put me down on more than one occasion, bitched me out for not selling when i was in the hospital for medical testing (he said i should have brought my sample kit along and done demos during testing and exams) and ultimately screwed me out of 500 dollars.

There are tons more things, but i'm sure u are all aware of how completly terrible it is to work for that company.
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Saturday, July 3rd, 2004

Posted by:woundedspider.
Time:11:01 am.

okay, so i got a letter in the mail the other day wanting me to schedule an interview @ vector. i have no work experience, so i'm really tempted so i can have something to put on my resume in the future. however, i'm not much of a people person. i getting highly stressed very easily when placed in uncomfortable/unfamiliar situations. so i want as much information as possible before deciding to go to an interview. i don't see their prices on cutco.com - if their products cost too much there's no way i can sell them around where i live. please tell me what i should expect.

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Thursday, June 17th, 2004

Posted by:ex_shattered767.
Time:2:09 am.
The irony:

A couple days ago, I get a letter from Vector, "Summer work opportunity enclosed". And the division manager's "signature" is on this letter, so I felt like mailing the letter back with choice words written on it in red pen since the division manager works at my former office and was the one I had to say "I quit" to 5 months ago.

Has anyone else gotten a letter?
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Saturday, June 12th, 2004

Posted by:ex_shattered767.
Time:4:55 am.
Now that school is letting out, I'm sure Vector has upped the efforts to find college students (or new high school graduates) to hire. Has anyone seen this personally? Has anyone recently talked someone out of going in for an interview or going to training? (I caught and stopped someone on my friends list a couple weeks ago.)
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Monday, May 24th, 2004

Subject:New Henckels Ad is Misleading
Posted by:antiscam.
Time:3:25 pm.
Anybody else find it odd that Vector decided to compare the price of a 23 pc set of Henckels Professional Series knives to their 18 pc Cutco Homemaker 8 Set at $1,562.00, and $999.95 on sale when Henckels makes an 18 pc Professional Series Set as well selling at $848.00 retail and $479.99 on sale:
http://cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=166781
(check around, no one sells it at retail price and you won't find it going for over $500 anywhere)

Heck, even a 20 pc set of Henckels Professional Series goes for $599.99 on sale:
http://cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=197420
Remember the 18 pc Cutco Homemaker +8 set is now selling at $840!

It's pretty obvious Vector looked around and came to the simple conclusion that Henckels is cheaper, so they went with an ad for a set that has 5 more pieces (that's 27% more pieces) than their Homemaker +8. A better comparison to the Henckels 23 pc set is the Cutco Ultimate set, but that's $1600

You didn't expect Vector to actually not mislead their customers or recruits, did you?
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